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Re: What vexes VoIP users?
From: Scott Helms <khelms () ispalliance net>
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 09:34:42 -0500
offered through the various broadband providers I have had.
No, this incorrect. Packet Cable most certainly _is_ VOIP (a MGCP variant to be precise until 2.0 after which it is SIP). While a few providers, usually for non-technical reasons, did deploy an entirely separate set of downstream and upstream interfaces that is far from the norm. AFAIK the only top 20 MSO to do so in scale was Charter and I don't know if they continue that today. Comcast, the largest cable telephone provider certainly does not nor do providers need to since any Packetcable CMTS and EMTA combo offers reliable prioritization in the same channel(s) as the normal data path.Let us be clear: if you're getting "digital telephone" service from a cable television provider, it is *not* "VoIP", in the usage in which most speakers mean that term -- "Voice Over Internet" is what they should be saying, and cable-phone isn't that; the voice traffic rides over a separate DOCSiS channel, protected from both the Internet and CATV traffic on the link.
As I said, this second channel doesn't exist in almost all cases (its not cost effective nor needed in almost all cases). Having said that over the top VOIP providers do suffer in comparison because they don't get the benefit of prioritization in the local cable plant.So of course Vonage and other VoN products will be less rugged. As I recall, this questionably fair competitive advantage has been looked into by ... someone. (Cablecos won't permit competing VoIP services to utilize this protected channel, somewhere between "generally" and "ever".)
Cheers, -- jra
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- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Tim Franklin (Mar 01)
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- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Jay Ashworth (Mar 01)
- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Scott Helms (Mar 01)
- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Jay Ashworth (Mar 01)
- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Michael Thomas (Mar 01)
- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Scott Helms (Mar 02)
- RE: What vexes VoIP users? Frank Bulk (Mar 01)
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- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Scott Helms (Mar 02)
- RE: What vexes VoIP users? Frank Bulk (Mar 02)
- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Scott Helms (Mar 02)
- Re: What vexes VoIP users? Jay Ashworth (Mar 01)
- Re: What vexes VoIP users? William Pitcock (Mar 01)
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