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Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space
From: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6 () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 09:07:21 -0700
On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Paul Graydon <paul () paulgraydon co uk> wrote:
On 5/24/2011 4:17 AM, Byron L. Hicks wrote:On 5/24/2011 9:13 AM, Leigh Porter wrote:So you said NO, and what did they do about it ?It forced them to put in their own ISDN router, and they put static routes on the point of sale terminals that pointed the "borrowed" IP space to the ISDN router. There was no way I was going to put this in the routing tables of my campus routers.So rather than fix the real problem, they added an additional bodge? Why am I not surprised?
There is no fixing the lack of IPv4, just more band-aids. IPv4 has been scarce for the last 10 years that i have been in this industry. I remember one of my first jobs was assigning IP addresses to customers at an ISP .... and people on the other end of the phone throwing chairs in anger because they can't launch their web site until i received their detailed justification for more ipv4 addresses. That was 10 years ago. Yes, the issue before was people being lazy and not wanting to do the paper work or working the system (because IPv4 was scarce then too). Now, there is legitimately not enough space for folks to deploy IPv4 in fast growing edges of the network like M2M (this includes point of sale), mobile, cloud, and many other places.... and there is no time to get in thumb wrestling wars with ARIN over what is used where (boss wants it done yesterday) It will get worse before it gets better. Cameron
Current thread:
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space, (continued)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Jimmy Hess (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Patrick W. Gilmore (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Jimmy Hess (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space David Conrad (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Owen DeLong (May 23)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Byron L. Hicks (May 24)
- RE: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Leigh Porter (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Byron L. Hicks (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Paul Graydon (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Cameron Byrne (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Brielle Bruns (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Joel Jaeggli (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space D'Arcy J.M. Cain (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Rubens Kuhl (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Owen DeLong (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Valdis . Kletnieks (May 24)
- Godwin was here ... was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 Edward Lewis (May 24)
- Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space Jimmy Hess (May 24)