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Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space)
From: Jack Carrozzo <jack () crepinc com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 17:02:55 -0400
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:54 PM, David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> wrote:
The decentralized nature of administration of 44/8 made this somewhat intractable. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out in the future address markets.
I reckon it'd be about as hard to get back 44/8 as 11/8, but with more neckbeards. Anytime the fcc tries to reclaim frequencies all these guys come out of the wood work with the magic phrase 'emergency communications' and some congressmen get on their side about it. It will be amusing to see, yes. -Jack Carrozzo
On May 26, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Carl Rosevear wrote:Used to run IP over AX.25 using KA9Q JNOS back in the day. HF at 300 baud simplex / half-duplex and VHF 144 Mhz at 1200 with similar characteristics. I bought some 9600 baud gear at one point but never got it all put together before moving on to the regular internet and (somewhat unfortunately) not really looking back. I remember transferring some uuencoded gifs via smtp... a couple of days later, if you were lucky, it would complete. I learned about how protocols communicate watching packet traces in KA9Q JNOS when I was about 14 years old. It was really easy when there were guaranteed to be multiple seconds between packets. I remember being 14 and feeling pretty suave when I figured out how to telnet into an SMTP server to send mail... of course that is old hat but still good common troubleshooting these days! de KB7LIG --Carl On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack () crepinc com> wrote:Me personally? No, but I have used it. IP over 9600baud serial actually isn't that bad for IRC when you're in the middle of the woods and all. You want slow... read about winlink2000, the email/messaging system forhamsand emergency response. It's PSK on HF, meant to be reliable but if yougetmore than 400bps you are doing GREAT! It's so slow that you can run the software on two laptops using the sound cards, and they'll talk acrosstheroom via speakers and mics no problem. It sounds kinda like robotsrapping.-Jack Carrozzo On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Pilkington <cjp () 0x1 netwrote:On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack () crepinc com>wrote:Nope, mostly HF (under 30mhz) gear at 300baud. Yes, you read thatright.You are running IP on this? And I though 1200 bauds half duplex wasslow.-- Carl Rosevear Manager of Operations Skytap, Inc. direct (206) 588-8899
Current thread:
- Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Christopher Pilkington (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Jack Carrozzo (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Christopher Pilkington (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Jack Carrozzo (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Carl Rosevear (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) David Conrad (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Jack Carrozzo (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Jaime Magiera (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Carl Rosevear (May 26)
- RE: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Sachs, Marcus Hans (Marc) (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Jack Carrozzo (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Owen DeLong (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Christopher Pilkington (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Wil Schultz (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) David Conrad (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Wil Schultz (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) David Conrad (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Lyndon Nerenberg (May 26)
- Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for internal address space) Jack Carrozzo (May 26)