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RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide


From: "Jamie Bowden" <jamie () photon com>
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 07:36:11 -0400

You are correct.  The BES uses PSKs to talk to RIM's servers, which then
uses them to talk to the devices over the carrier networks.  All of this
was in complete failure mode until sometime overnight when it appears to
have all started flowing again.  Someday either Google or Apple will get
off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all
gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bins where they
belong.

Jamie

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley () hopcount ca]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:06 PM
To: Phil Regnauld
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide


On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:

Joe Abley (jabley) writes:

On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:

Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)

The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of
processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the
core as a simple transport and shift the processing intelligence to
the
edge have different, less-dramatic failure modes.

    This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated
servers,
    AFAIU.

I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic
between handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through
a
cellular network, still flows through RIM.


Joe


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