Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

[Carlos Alcantar <carlos () race com>]

What I'm not digging about the entire iMessage I turned off my iMessage
option and someone else here in the office was trying to send me a txt.
> From the looks of it the iPhone does not let you pick between wanting to
send an iMessage or txt I could be wrong, but his phone was forcing
iMessage and of course I was not getting the messages.  Little bit of an
issue not getting those messages.

Carlos Alcantar
Race Communications / Race Team Member
101 Haskins Way, So. San Francisco, CA. 94080
Phone: +1 415 376 3314  Fax:  +1 650 246 8901 / carlos *at* race.com /
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On 10/14/11 11:48 AM, "Martin Millnert" <millnert () gmail com> wrote:

> Jared,
>
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 5:56 PM, Jared Mauch <jared () puck nether net>
> wrote:
> > Rebuilding this trust can take some time.  I do expect that with the
> > iMessage stuff that was released yesterday (SMS/MMSoIP to email/phone#)
> > many more companies will shift to using that instead as the value of BBM
> > is decreased.
>
> With iMessage, Apple is following the lead of multi-platform apps such
> as Viber (integrated voice over ip) and whatsapp (integrated "rich"
> texting over ip). Integrated meaning the unique name/key registered in
> the system's name lookup service is your phone number, so you
> automagically discover who of all your address book entries have the
> application.  Turning on whatsapp on my 360 contact address book
> yielded me 10% of my contact list *online* using it. :)
>
> Not being multi-vendor/platform, I wonder if iMessage on iPhone is
> going to reach similar uptake.  Being installed from start certainly
> helps though, but not piggy backing on the phone numbers is a clear
> strategic error in my opinion (apple IDs are obviously a long long way
> from being as universal as phone numbers).
>
> I tried out whatsapp yesterday on an old Symbian S60 Nokia (N97) and
> it works great.  Only thing I regret is not trying it out sooner.
>
> Now, if mobile devices only had ... globally unique and *reachable* IP
> addresses, you could even envision sending messages/pictures/video
> directly from your own device to a peer, with no need for bouncing
> through overloaded centralized bottlenecks, such as is the case with
> whatsapp (and certainly iMessage as well).
>
> There's certainly a business case in there for a legacy-free,
> bandwidth-optimized, IP only, LTE-network... (read: no [stupid]
> tunnels)
>
>
> > I also wonder what the impact of iMessage and others will be on places
> > like hotel networks as the devices camp out longer/more often on the
> > wifi, etc.  We observed the impact to a hotel of the NANOG crowd this
> > week (i wonder if there will be lessons learned on the part of lodgenet,
> > etc?)
> >
> > I know personally I've observed the attwifi ssid expanding to more
> > places (including hilton branded properties) in the past 6 months to
> > offload cellular data.
>
> Offloading is wise, indeed.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Martin