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Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network
From: Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 12:28:39 -0500
On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 12:06, Joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:
. The ARIN community is easily it's own worst enemy.
Not to mention the difficulty of actually getting a provider to let you announce their PA IP space to other providers if you already are / want multihoming. I just got turned down by one of mine just yesterday for that. I'm looking at having to keep a T1 at my office with one of my existing providers that is going away due to footprint issues (Windstream will sell connectivity, but requires the ip space to be localized, even if originated by customer, so don't move or expand or anything) just to be able to announce their number space because H.E. and my other providers refuses to do it outright. I'm fairly fed up with the bunch at this point, and probably going to cancel most of my current providers once I get my own space just out of spite. Forcing PA space for multihoming before a minimum threshold is understandable, but trying to obtain said PA space can be an exercise in futility, which is amusing in a perverse way, because some of the providers are the same employeers of people advocating for exactly that design in PPML et al. Which is especially annoying coming from a provider that happily did this for customers so its not like I don't understand the issues etc. -Blake
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- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Blake Dunlap (Sep 17)
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- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 17)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network John Curran (Sep 17)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 17)
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- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network Randy Bush (Sep 18)
- Re: wet-behind-the-ears whippersnapper seeking advice on building a nationwide network John Curran (Sep 18)
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