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Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois?
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 23:10:44 -0800
Frankly, the more I think about this, the less it's clear why someone like hetzner.de would actually want you to be using their native IPv6 support, instead of the one provided by HE.net through their free tunnelbroker.net service. HE has an open-peering policy (AFAIK);
Yes, HE has a one-word peering policy… "YES!" However, that means that if hetzner peered IPv6 native with us, we would provide them every thing you get through tunnel broker still at no cost and without any limitations on bandwidth. We don't artificially limit the bandwidth on tunnel broker, but, each tunnel broker server has a single network interface that it hairpins the v4/v6 traffic on and the bandwidth is what it is. I don't expect that will be an issue any time soon, but for planning purposes, people should understand that tunnel broker is a where-is-as-is service on a best effort basis with no SLA. We do offer production grade tunnel services for a fee and people are welcome to contact me off-list for more information.
which basically means that tunnelbroker.net traffic is free for hetzner.de, whereas for native IPv6 traffic they might have to be paying for transit costs, depending on the destination. HE.net
We would really rather see such traffic come native across our peering links as much as possible. It allows us to provide a higher quality of service.
probably wins, too; since being the place-to-go-for-IPv6 might make it easier for them to have more settlement-free peering with big transit providers such as AT&T (Bay-Area-wise, they still have IPv6 traffic going through their peering in Los Angeles).
Being a popular IPv6 peer and having so many tunnel broker users has been a great success story for us, yes. However, in terms of how this affects our standing for peering, I think that the effect is the same regardless of whether we are passing the traffic from/to a peering link or a tunnel broker. Owen
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- RE: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois?, (continued)
- RE: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Siegel, David (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Darius Jahandarie (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Sander Steffann (Dec 09)
- RE: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Steve Bertrand (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Randy Bush (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Ryan Malayter (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Randy Bush (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mikael Abrahamsson (Dec 09)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 08)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 11)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Doug Barton (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mark Andrews (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Mark Andrews (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Constantine A. Murenin (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Randy Bush (Dec 10)
- Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois? Owen DeLong (Dec 11)