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Re: How are you doing DHCPv6 ?


From: Randy Carpenter <rcarpen () network1 net>
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:12:07 -0500 (EST)


Controlled by software = not constant.

It is also not likely to be something that is knowable on a piece of electronic gear that is not a PC, nor will it be 
something that can be printed on the outside of the device, like most today.

-Randy


----- Original Message -----
Yes, DUID and IAID should be persistent on systems.  If they are not
then they are not following the RFC.

Note that bad practices, though, can remove that persistence (e.g.
deleting the DUID, or replicating the DUID on other systems).

On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Karl Auer <kauer () biplane com au>
wrote:
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 17:26 -0500, Randy Carpenter wrote:
One major issue is that there is no way to associate a user's MAC
(for
IPv4) with their DUID. I haven't been able to find a way to
account
for this without making the user authenticate once for IPv4, and
then
again for IPv6. This is cumbersome to the user. Also, in the past
there have been various reason why we want to pre-authenticate a
client's MAC address (mostly for game consoles, and such, which
have
the MAC written on the outside of the machine). How can this be
done
with IPv6, which the DUID is not constant?

Perhaps I misunderstand you (or the RFCs) but it seems to me that
the
DUID *is* constant. Reading section 9 of RFC 3315, it's pretty
clear
that a DUID is generated once, according to simple rules, and does
not
change once it has been generated. Barring intervention, of course.

The problem is how to either find out ahead of time what DUID a
client
has OR how to impose a specific DUID on a client as part of
provisioning
it. Neither of those issues looks particularly intractable,
especially
if vendors start shipping with pre-configured DUIDs that are
written on
the boxes.

What do you mean by "authenticate"? Do you mean something like
802.1x?

Regards, K.

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