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Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary
From: Geoff Huston <gih () apnic net>
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:41:06 +1100
On 14/03/2012, at 9:16 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
Yes, the economics of routing are strange, and the lack of any real strictures in the routing tables are testament to the observation that despite more than two decades of tossing the idea around we've yet to find the equivalent of a "route deaggregation tax" or a "route advertisement tax" or any other mechanism that effectively turns the routing space into a form of market that imposes some economic constraints on the activity.among other things, i suspect that the shadow of telco settlements makes us shy away from this.
Agreed. It's all ugly! The shadow of telco settlement nonsense, the entire issue of route pull vs route push, and the spectre of any such payments morphing into a coerced money flow towards to the so-called tier 1 networks all make this untenable. The topic has been coming up pretty regularly every 2 years since about 1994 to my knowledge, and probably earlier, and has never managed to get anywhere useful. Geoff
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- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Masataka Ohta (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary William Herrin (Mar 16)
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- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Valdis . Kletnieks (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Masataka Ohta (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Geoff Huston (Mar 12)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Leo Bicknell (Mar 13)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary William Herrin (Mar 13)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Owen DeLong (Mar 13)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Randy Bush (Mar 13)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Geoff Huston (Mar 13)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Randy Bush (Mar 13)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Leo Bicknell (Mar 13)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Masataka Ohta (Mar 14)
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- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Masataka Ohta (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Eugen Leitl (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary William Herrin (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Eugen Leitl (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary Scott Brim (Mar 15)
- Re: Shim6, was: Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary William Herrin (Mar 15)