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Re: Force10 E Series at the edge?


From: Tom Daly <tom () dyn com>
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:59:11 -0400 (EDT)

Brent,
Your options include, for smaller boxes:

- Brocade CER series, but make sure you the -RT versions due to RAM (haven't tried, though)
- Juniper MX (MX80 is working well for us)
- Cisco ASR1006 (heard a lot about BGP price issues)

But for 300mb/sec, what not OpenBSD + Quagga?

Tom



----- Original Message -----
I was very happy with the E300 as a data center core switch handling
multiple full feeds (around 15) with about 10x the traffic you are
talking about.  The only problem I had was that Force10 didn't have
a useful (basically forklift) upgrade to get more IPv4 prefixes, and
the more I talked to them and the more I showed them the graphs
demonstrating what we'd need for prefix space assuming even the most
conservative assumptions at depletion, the more I realized they
really Did Not Get It.  In fact, their brand new architecture
recently announced had only 500k prefixes allowed, at a time that
the Juniper MX platform handled 2million easily.

So I would be fine using Force10 again, given the following changes:
      1. Large limits on IP prefixes allowed
      2. Reallocation of useless memory from stupid things like MAC tables
      to prefixes (data centers have very few MACs, very many prefixes)
      3. Command line logging

The units worked great at failover, never had any problems gracefully
failing over from one RP to another, but if you have to cold boot
them for any reason it takes like 5 minutes :(

On Mar 27, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Roberts, Brent wrote:
Is anyone running an E300 Series Chassis at the internet edge with
multiple Full BGP feeds? 95th percent would be about 300 meg of
traffic. BGP session count would be between 2 and 4 Peers.
6k internal Prefix count as it stands right now. Alternative are
welcome. Thought about the ASR1006 but I need some local switching
as well.

Full requirements include
Full internet Peering over GigE Links.
Fully Redundant Power
Redundant "Supervisor/Route Processor"
Would prefer a Small Chassis unit. (under 10u)
Would also prefer a single unit as opposed to a two smaller units.


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