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Re: BCP38 Deployment


From: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org>
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:45:12 -0700

Leo,

On Mar 28, 2012, at 8:13 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
#1) Money.
#2) Laziness.

While Patrick is spot on, there is a third issue which is related
to money and laziness, but also has some unique aspects.

BCP38 makes the assumption that the ISP does some "configuration"
to insure only properly sourced packets enter the network.  That
may have been true when BCP38 was written, but no longer accurately
reflects how networks are built and operated.

An interesting assertion.  I haven't looked at how end-user networks are built recently.  I had assumed there continue 
to be customer aggregation points within ISP infrastructure in which BCP38-type filtering could occur.  You're saying 
this is no longer the case?  What has replaced it?

BCP38 needs

to be applied at the OEM level in equipment maufacturing, not at
the operational level with ISP's.

I don't believe this is either/or.  I agree that BCP38 features should be turned on by default in CPE, however I 
believe it really needs to be enforced at the ISP level.

As long as folks keep beating on (consumer) ISPs to implement BCP38, nothing will happen.


Optimist.

Actually, given the uptick in spoofing-based DoS attacks, the ease in which such attacks can be generated, recent high 
profile targets of said attacks, and the full-on money pumping freakout about anything with "cyber-" tacked on the 
front, I suspect a likely outcome will be proposals for legislation forcing ISPs to do something like BCP38. 

Regards,
-drc



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