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Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration


From: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins () arbor net>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 00:36:39 +0000


On Nov 27, 2012, at 7:12 AM, Carsten Bormann wrote:

We have seen your kind of thinking.

You totally mischaracterize my 'kind of thinking'.  My entire career arc has been that of a technological evangelist.  
Yes, I think there's a lot that's wrong with IPv6, but it appears that it's the only path forward we have, for the 
foreseeable future.

It is very interesting that merely expressing skepticism regarding the rate, breadth, and depth of IPv6 deployment, and 
floating the proposition that some 'killer app' is needed in order to stimulate IPv6 deployment, is met with such 
over-the-top rhetoric and vitriol.

So it's there when you finally decide to shut up and give us the money.

As a consumer, I currently don't have the choice of paying for native IPv6 connectivity because it simply isn't 
available in the part of the world where I reside.  Which is the part of the world that everyone says should benefit 
the most from IPv6 - i.e., Asia - but is also a part of the world which has practically zero consumer-grade IPv6 
connectivity options, and precious few commercial-grade ones.

You are much better off using your energy to plan ahead for that and ease the transitions, instead of inventing 
scales of significance that somehow prove to yourself you can continue doing nothing.

Why do you think I am 'doing nothing'?  When I was at Cisco, I relentlessly pushed for IPv4/IPv6 feature and 
performance parity, especially with regards to security and resiliency (much good that it did me, heh).  I continue to 
advocate this stance.

I am trying to point out that there are a lot of barriers to the near-universal deployment, or at least availability, 
of end-to-end IPv6 connectivity.  It seems to me that many folks are overly optimistic in this regard, and that there 
must be some kind of incentive for ordinary users to push for IPv6 connectivity in order for it to achieve critical 
mass.

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          Luck is the residue of opportunity and design.

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