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Re: Another LTE network turns up as IPv4-only


From: Bryan Tong <contact () nullivex com>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 02:55:11 -0600

Why do you believe that address changes in handover? It's an integral part
of 3GPP standard that your existing bearer is used for handover, so your
address shouldn't change. If it changes then it means the handover didn't
work as designed, probably due to some radio related problem. If the address
changed, then it means the bearer was torn down and a new bearer was
initiated. This is definitely not expected behaviour. We have plenty of
customers with bearers that are up for tens of days in a row.

For that to be true wouldnt support for IPv6 need to be in all
generations of networks. With that standard in place there can not be
new protocols without retrofitting. For a user to switch from 6 to 4
would require and address change however that address change would be
reliant on DNS which would be out of the scope of network grade
support.

On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 2:41 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se> wrote:
On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, Matthew Kaufman wrote:

If your SSH sessions could survive a change in address assignment (which
often happens in a handover), they could survive a change in address family
assignment as well.


Why would there be an address change in a handover? That is definitely not
expected behaviour.

But the stream would almost certainly be coming to a newly assigned IP
address?


Why do you believe that address changes in handover? It's an integral part
of 3GPP standard that your existing bearer is used for handover, so your
address shouldn't change. If it changes then it means the handover didn't
work as designed, probably due to some radio related problem. If the address
changed, then it means the bearer was torn down and a new bearer was
initiated. This is definitely not expected behaviour. We have plenty of
customers with bearers that are up for tens of days in a row.


The *only* inconsistency would be when you're accessing the IPv6-only part
of the Internet, of which there's currently none that consumers care about.


If a user is accessing a stream from an IPv6 enabled CDN that stream
shouldn't be reset just because a handover happened.


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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se




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