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Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8
From: Alex Harrowell <a.harrowell () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 09:46:28 +0100
On 19/09/12 08:04, goemon () anime net wrote:
On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Mark Andrews wrote:In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.1209182339200.5518 () sasami anime net>, goemon () anime net writes:On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Owen DeLong wrote:On Sep 18, 2012, at 21:11 , Mike Hale <eyeronic.design () gmail com> wrote:Many of them _ARE_ using them, just not using them directly on the public"this is the arin vigilante cultural view of the world. luckily, the disease does not propagate sufficiently to cross oceans." I'd love to hear the reasoning for this. Why would it be bad policyto force companies to use the resources they are assigned or give themback to the general pool?internet. There is nothing wrong with that. As others have said... !announced != !used.Is they are not using them directly on the public internet, then there'sno reason we can't use them. Problem solved!!announced whole world != !announced. There is a simple rule.i guess my sarcasm was missed.DO NOT USE ADDRESSES THAT YOU HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOCATED. Anything else has the potential to cause operational problems.Tell that to the providers who keep routing hijacked blocks for spammers :)-Dan
On the other hand, the scarcity is of *globally unique routable* addresses. You can make a case that private use of (non-RFC1918) IPv4 resources is wasteful in itself at the moment. To be provocative, what on earth is their excuse for not using IPv6 internally? By definition, an internal network that isn't announced to the public Internet doesn't have to worry about happy eyeballs, broken carrier NAT, and the like because it doesn't have to be connected to them if it doesn't want to be. A lot of the transition issues are much less problematic if you're not on the public Internet.
Perhaps the military have a lot of weird equipment that is IPv4 only - in fact it's a racing certainty - but DWP is a gigantic enterprise data processing organisation. They also have some big Web sites, but obviously those aren't on the private network. (If they had enough workstations to need the whole /8, we wouldn't need DWP as the unemployment problem would have been definitively solved:-))
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- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 John Levine (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Randy Bush (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Mike Hale (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Elmar K. Bins (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Arturo Servin (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Owen DeLong (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 goemon (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Jo Rhett (Sep 18)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Mark Andrews (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 goemon (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Alex Harrowell (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Jo Rhett (Sep 19)
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- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Lynda (Sep 19)
- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 Cutler James R (Sep 19)
- They aren't on *MY* Internet, so I should get their space! Jo Rhett (Sep 19)
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- Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8 nanog () nanog org Jo Rhett (Sep 19)
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