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Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM
From: Michael Thomas <mike () mtcc com>
Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2013 08:24:47 -0700
So here is the question I have: when we run out, is there *anything* that will reasonably allow an ISP to *not* deploy carrier grade NAT? Assuming that it's death for the ISP to just say no to the long tail of legacy v4-only sites? One thing that occurs to me though is that it's sort of in an ISP's interest to deploy v6 on the client side because each new v6 site that lights up on the internet side is less traffic forced through the CGN gear which is ultimately a cost down. So maybe an alternative to a death penalty is a molasses penalty: make the CGN experience operable but bad/congested/slow :) Mike On 04/25/2013 07:12 AM, Arturo Servin wrote:
Yes. We figured this out and we are starting a program (or a set of activities) to promote the deployment of IPv6 in what we call "End-users organizations" (basically enterprises, universities). We are seeing much lower adoption numbers than our ISP's categories. One basic problem that we have found when talking with enterprises is that the perceived value of deploy v6 is near to zero as they have v4 addresses (universities) or NAT. Regards, as On 4/24/13 6:26 PM, Fred Baker (fred) wrote:If we really want to help the cause, I suspect that focusing attention on enterprise, and finding ways to convince them that address shortages are also their problem, will help the most.
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- RE: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM, (continued)
- RE: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Tony Hain (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Fred Baker (fred) (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Justin M. Streiner (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Stephen Frost (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Michael Thomas (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Fred Baker (fred) (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Michael Thomas (Apr 24)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Owen DeLong (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Arturo Servin (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Michael Thomas (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Levine (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Mikael Abrahamsson (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Chris Grundemann (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Randy Bush (Apr 25)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Randy Bush (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Randy Bush (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM John Curran (Apr 26)
- Re: "It's the end of the world as we know it" -- REM Brandon Ross (Apr 25)