Re: NSA able to compromise Cisco, Juniper, Huawei switches

["[AP] NANOG" <nanog () armoredpackets com>]

Roland,

I did fail to mention the HUMINT (Human Intelligence) side of things,
thank you for bringing that up!

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Thank you,

Robert Miller
http://www.armoredpackets.com

Twitter: @arch3angel


On 12/30/13, 11:33 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
> On Dec 31, 2013, at 11:06 AM, [AP] NANOG <nanog () armoredpackets com> wrote:
>
> > Then looking at things from the evil side though, if they owned the system which provides the signing then they 
> > could sign
> > virtually anything they wish.
> Or if they owned *people* with the right level of access to do so, or if there were implementation bugs which could 
> be utilized to bypass or obviate the signing . . .
>
> None of the alleged capabilities described in the purported documents is really standalone; they all rely upon other 
> methods/mechanisms in order to provide the required foundation to accomplish their stated goals.
>
> > I think we need to watch and listen/read over the coming weeks and months before we go assuming we have it figured 
> > out.
> This is the most pertinent and insightful comment made in this thread.
>
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>
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>
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