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Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband


From: Fletcher Kittredge <fkittred () gwi net>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:29:08 -0500

In this particular post, your making stuff up.   There are still
"residential focused" CLECs and ordering Unbundled Network Elements(UNEs)
is not more difficult than in the past.   The rules haven't changed.

What is certainly true is that many CLECs have found that it is more
lucrative to sell to businesses, but I don't think there is a correlation
with residential getting more difficult.   We used to be 75%/25%
residential/business and are now 45%/55% business, but that reflects the
*rapid* growth of the business market.

regards,
Fletcher

On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:42 PM, Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:

Joe,

I'm assuming from your domain that you're in Canada where yes dry pairs are
still generally available.  I apologize for not making it clear that my
comment was specifically about the US where dry pairs are nearly impossible
to order today and the CLEC market has almost entirely abandoned the
residential space. In fact, the only state in the US that I still see any
residentially focused CLECs is Texas which tells me there is something
about the regulations in that state that makes it more feasible.


On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Joe Abley <jabley () hopcount ca> wrote:


On 2013-02-03, at 14:39, Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:

Dry pairs are impossible to order these days for a reason.

Dry pairs are trivial to order round these parts. Generalisations are
always wrong, no doubt including this one.


Joe (putting the N back in NANOG)




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