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Re: Level3 worldwide emergency upgrade?


From: PC <paul4004 () gmail com>
Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 09:24:52 -0700

Given the issue was announced a week ago, I'm surprised they didn't provide
some sort of emergency notification prior to the upgrade.  However, I
certainly understand their immediate desire to deploy this update.  I don't
think it's bad as the BGP one from not too long ago in that exploit code is
not yet publicly available to my knowledge, but it certainly won't take
long.


On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 9:04 AM, joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com> wrote:

On 2/6/13 7:43 AM, Ray Wong wrote:

On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:10 AM, Andrew Sullivan <asullivan () dyn com>
wrote:

On Wed, Feb 06, 2013 at 07:39:14AM -0500, Jared Mauch wrote:

So, I'm wondering what is shocking that someone may have to push out
some sort of upgrade either urgently or periodically that is so impacting
and causes these emails on the list.

 My impression is mostly that people are left feeling uncomfortable by
a massive upgrade of this sort with so little communication about why
and so on.  "Emergency work for five hours and 30 minutes
disconnection" that turns out to take longer than 30 minutes of
disconnection probably ought to come with some explanation (at least
after the fact).

 Especially in the wake they already recently did one. It's unsettling
to receive little communication, and even multihomed, there's always
the question of being pushed into overages around other providers.

Yes, short notice maintenance does happen. Better communication
happens much less often.

I recieved advance (24 hours) notification of maintenances over the last
two days to circuits ranging in size from 100MB/s to 10Gb/s in about a
dozen locations. I assumed there would be further disruption as devices I'm
not directly connected to were touched.


I was more looking for details, i.e. the sort of problem this is, as
it probably also means all my *other* providers are going to be
scrambling in the next few days/weeks/months, depending on what gear
they're all using.

All your other providers using that vendor have been scrambling for about
a week as well. Junos devices should be upgraded.

   I'm out of the global infrastructure game myself
for a few years currently, but I still have to think ahead to the
network I do maintain.


-R>






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