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Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband
From: Owen DeLong <owen () delong com>
Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2013 14:41:23 -0800
On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Jay Ashworth" <jra () baylink com>It's about 3 square miles, and has about 8000 passings, the majority of which are single or double family residential; a sprinkling of multi-tenant, about a dozen city facilities, and a bunch of retail multi-unit business.I was musing, off-list, as to why there isn't a Mad-Lib you can just plug some numbers into and get within, say, 40% or so of your target costs for a given design. Well, http://www.ftthcommunitytoolkit.wikispaces.net isn't it, but it does have a bunch of useful information for this project, looks like. A couple of clarifying points: 1) I had posited GPON as I assumed that was where most of the CATV over FTTH hardware work was, vice FiOS. Turns out there's lots of hardware for IPTV as well, and quite a number of smaller deployments, so apparently that path is easier than I thought. The only difference is cross-connect fiber counts, and possibly some link budget. 2) I was planning to provide an IX switch in my colo, so all my L3 providers could short-circuit traffic to my *other* providers through it, unloading my uplinks. 3) Given that, I suppose I could put Limelight and Akamai racks in there, and couple them to the IX switch as well, policies permitting. 4) Given what a pisser it's going to be to get tags to me on the local backbone loops (about 3 are with 5 miles of my city border), I'm also considering having a 10G or 2 hauled in from each of 2 backbones, and reselling those to my L3 providers (again at cost recovery pricing), while not precluding any provider wanting to haul in their own uplink from doing so.
A better model, IMHO, is to encourage the backbones to come meet your providers at your IX/Colo.
5) There's a possiblity my college campus may be on I2 (or want to); perhaps I can facilitate that as well -- and possible (again, policies permitting) extend such connections to relevant staff members or students who live in the city) (I'm not as familiar with I2 as I should be).
Do some research before you pursue this too vocally or commit to it.
6) And pursuant to 3, perhaps I could even set up the IPTV service and resell that to the L3 provider to bundle with their IP service, so they don't have to do it themselves; while it's not a difficult as I had gathered, it's still harder than them doing VoIP as part of their own triple-play.
Pandora's can of worms. Owen
Current thread:
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband, (continued)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Dylan N (Feb 02)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Brandon Ross (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Brandon Ross (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Leo Bicknell (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Jay Ashworth (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Brandon Ross (Feb 02)
- Re: Followup: Small City Municipal Broadband Scott Helms (Feb 02)
- Re: Rollup: Small City Municipal Broadband Dylan N (Feb 02)