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Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list


From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:39:28 +0100 (CET)

On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Leo Bicknell wrote:

of the device, not unlike an IPMI device on a server.  Using IPMI

IPMI is exactly what we're going for.

In this ideal world, the deployment model is simple.  A small OOB
device would be deployed (think like a Cisco 1900, or Juniper SRX
220), connected to a separate network (DSL, cable modem, cell modem,
ethernet to some other provider, or gasp, even an old school analog
modem).  Each large router would get an ethernet port and usb console
to that device.  SSH to the right port would get the USB console,
ideally with the 2-4 consoles exposed where hitting the same port just
cycles through them.

This is added cost and complexity. Sometimes there is only 1-2 devices in the pop, and now there is need to install a serial console router with DC (limits options) just to connect to the serial console, which might not work anyway because the control plane might be so screwed up that it actually needs power cycling.

So I want to retire serial ports in the front to be needed for normal operation. Look at the XR devices from Cisco for instance. For "normal maintenance" you pretty much require both serial console (to do rommon stuff one would imagine shouldn't be needed) and also mgmt ethernet (to use tftp for downloading software when you need to turbo-boot because the system is now screwed up because the XR developer ("install") team messed up the SMUs *again*).

For instance, if you have single RP the upgrade instructions for 4.2.1 lists going into rommon and doing "boot -s", *or* power cycling the box, after FPGA upgrade.

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Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike () swm pp se


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