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Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike () swm pp se>
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 18:39:28 +0100 (CET)
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, Leo Bicknell wrote:
of the device, not unlike an IPMI device on a server. Using IPMI
IPMI is exactly what we're going for.
In this ideal world, the deployment model is simple. A small OOB device would be deployed (think like a Cisco 1900, or Juniper SRX 220), connected to a separate network (DSL, cable modem, cell modem, ethernet to some other provider, or gasp, even an old school analog modem). Each large router would get an ethernet port and usb console to that device. SSH to the right port would get the USB console, ideally with the 2-4 consoles exposed where hitting the same port just cycles through them.
This is added cost and complexity. Sometimes there is only 1-2 devices in the pop, and now there is need to install a serial console router with DC (limits options) just to connect to the serial console, which might not work anyway because the control plane might be so screwed up that it actually needs power cycling.
So I want to retire serial ports in the front to be needed for normal operation. Look at the XR devices from Cisco for instance. For "normal maintenance" you pretty much require both serial console (to do rommon stuff one would imagine shouldn't be needed) and also mgmt ethernet (to use tftp for downloading software when you need to turbo-boot because the system is now screwed up because the XR developer ("install") team messed up the SMUs *again*).
For instance, if you have single RP the upgrade instructions for 4.2.1 lists going into rommon and doing "boot -s", *or* power cycling the box, after FPGA upgrade.
-- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike () swm pp se
Current thread:
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list, (continued)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 13)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list joel jaeggli (Jan 13)
- RE: OOB core router connectivity wish list Jamie Bowden (Jan 14)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Nick Hilliard (Jan 13)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Justin M. Streiner (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Leo Bicknell (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Jared Mauch (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Blake Dunlap (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Leo Bicknell (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 09)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Steven Bellovin (Jan 31)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Saku Ytti (Jan 09)
- RE: OOB core router connectivity wish list Adam Vitkovsky (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Dobbins, Roland (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Mikael Abrahamsson (Jan 10)
- Re: OOB core router connectivity wish list Dobbins, Roland (Jan 10)