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Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:54:05 -0500
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM, Julian DeMarchi <julian () jdcomputers com au> wrote:
At least one company uses spamrats. That's how it got escalated to me.
Hi Julian, A couple of thoughts for you: 1. Spam Rats is a non-entity and anyone blocking email solely on Spam Rats' information is a fool. You can't be responsible for what every damn fool does on the Internet, so if the problem is that the customer sending small amounts of mail has run afoul of a single fool, you should consider limiting your efforts to helping the customer get in touch with that fool. 2. If the customer sending small amounts of email decides that blocking of multiple mail destinations is because of Spam Rats, they're almost certainly mistaken. Not about being blocked, but about the cause. Find out what's really going on. 3. If the customer is sending mail without a valid PTR record then they're probably on lists similar to rfc-ignorant as well. Check in to it. And help them fix the PTR record. 4. If the customer is sending enough email to find multiple folks relying on Spam Rats' information and they're doing it without having asked for valid PTR records, that's enough of a red flag that it's time for you to scrutinize just what email your customer is sending. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- [SHAME] Spam Rats Julian DeMarchi (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Julian DeMarchi (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Julian DeMarchi (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats John Levine (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Julian DeMarchi (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Jon Lewis (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Julian DeMarchi (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats William Herrin (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Joe Provo (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 09)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Suresh Ramasubramanian (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Jima (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Jared Mauch (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats John Levine (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats Daniel Taylor (Jan 10)
- Re: [SHAME] Spam Rats joel jaeggli (Jan 10)