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Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6
From: David Swafford <david () davidswafford com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:39:51 -0800
There is no "suckerage" to V6. Really, it's not that hard. While CGN is the reality, we need to keep focused on the ultimate goal -- a single long term solution. Imagine a day where there is no dual stack, no IPv4, and no more band-aids. It will be amazing. david. On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Joe Maimon <jmaimon () ttec com> wrote:
Lee Howard wrote:You are welcome to deploy it if you choose to. Part of the reason I'm arguing against it is that if everyone deploys it, then everyone has to deploy it. If it is seen as an alternative to IPv6 by some, then others' deployment of IPv6 is made less useful: network effect. Also, spending money on CGN seems misguided; if you agree that you're going to deploy IPv6 anyway, why spend the money for IPv6 *and also* for CGN? LeeSuppose a provider fully deploys v6, they will still need CGN so long as they have customers who want to access the v4 internet. Unfortunately, that may have the side effect of undercutting some portion of v6's value proposition, inversely related to its suckage. Joe
Current thread:
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6, (continued)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Constantine A. Murenin (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Brandon Ross (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 William Herrin (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Seth Mos (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Lee Howard (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Lee Howard (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 William Herrin (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 David Swafford (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Jimmy Hess (Jan 19)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Neil J. McRae (Jan 28)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 18)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Valdis . Kletnieks (Jan 18)
- RE: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Jamie Bowden (Jan 22)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Andre Tomt (Jan 18)
- RE: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Voll, Toivo (Jan 23)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Owen DeLong (Jan 17)
- Re: Slashdot: UK ISP PlusNet Testing Carrier-Grade NAT Instead of IPv6 Joe Maimon (Jan 18)