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Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard?
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 16:47:08 -0500
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
On Jan 30, 2013, at 6:24 AM, William Herrin <bill () herrin us> wrote:As long as they support open peering they can probably operate at layer 3 without harm. Tough to pitch a muni on spending tax revenue for something that's not a complete product usable directly by the taxpayers.Perhaps, but well worth the effort. There are a wide variety of reasons to want more than one L3 provider to be readily available and avoid limiting consumers to a single choice of ISP policies, capabilities, etc.
If the municipal provider offers open, settlement-free peering at the head end then the customer *does* have a choice of L3 provider. Tunnel service over IP has only minor differences from an L2 service in such a scenario. Only one difference truthfully: MTU.
Also, an L1/L2 fiber plant may be usable for other services beyond just packets.
True enough but rapidly dropping in importance. The 20th century held POTS service with a rare need for a dry copper pair. The 21st holds IP packets with a rare need for dark fiber. Besides, I don't propose that a municipality implement fiber but refuse to unbundle it at any reasonable price. That would be Really Bad. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004
Current thread:
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard?, (continued)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Owen DeLong (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? William Herrin (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Art Plato (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Peter Kristolaitis (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Art Plato (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Jay Ashworth (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Art Plato (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Tim Jackson (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Jay Ashworth (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Leo Bicknell (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Owen DeLong (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? William Herrin (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Owen DeLong (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Jay Ashworth (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Scott Helms (Jan 30)
- Re: Will wholesale-only muni actually bring the boys to your yard? Art Plato (Jan 30)