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Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages
From: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner () cluebyfour org>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:40:29 -0400 (EDT)
On Sun, 14 Jul 2013, Aaron Wendel wrote:
We (ISPs) are all compelled to provide information from time to time under a court order. The PRISM program is voluntary. These companies gave the NSA access to their systems voluntarily. To me there is a big difference. I would be interested to know what they got out of it.
It sounds like many of them were 'compelled' to 'volunteer'.Probably not much, because they really don't have to offer much. I could see Uncle Sam strong-arming carriers who are beholden to the [local/state/ federal] government in some fashion for their ability to operate their businesses (wireless spectrum auctions, state utility commission approvals for XYZ, getting on the approved bidder list for government contracts, etc). I'm also pretty sure the CxOs and legal counsels who reviewed and signed off on whatever agreements the NSA put in front of them won't be talking about the fine print any time soon.
jms
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- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Warren Bailey (Jul 14)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Randy Bush (Jul 14)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Richard Golodner (Jul 14)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Aaron Wendel (Jul 14)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Justin M. Streiner (Jul 14)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 15)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Christopher Morrow (Jul 15)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Warren Bailey (Jul 15)
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- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 16)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Christopher Morrow (Jul 16)
- Re: Office 365..? how Microsoft handed the NSA access to encrypted messages Warren Bailey (Jul 16)