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RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads
From: goemon () anime net
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 10:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
On Fri, 26 Jul 2013, Otis L. Surratt, Jr. wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Ryan Pavely [mailto:paradox () nac net] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 8:33 AM To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leadsEven the anti-spam army out there seem to ignore 'This is the abusecontact', and end up spamming all whois org contacts. What's the point in that? I agree. Most of them end up blasting all contacts which is completely stupid!!! That's why you see on the comment sections with many providers something along the lines of "Please use Abuse Handle or please send requests for DMCA to this handle"
Because your mail servers are broken. Because you put spamfilters on your abuse@ mailbox, IF you even have an abuse@, which a lot of you don't. Because we tried calling, and your tier1 are clueless.
Fix your mailservers. Train your staff. Staff your abuse desk. Then we'll talk.
If your network didn't spew sewage into peoples mailboxes, and if you actually took action on abusive customers, this wouldn't be a problem.
Some providers have responsive abuse desks. For the rest, well thats what RBL are for I guess.
-Dan
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads, (continued)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Warren Bailey (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Barry Shein (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Sholes, Joshua (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads John Curran (Jul 26)
- RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads Otis L. Surratt, Jr. (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 26)
- RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads goemon (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Rich Kulawiec (Jul 26)
- RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads Otis L. Surratt, Jr. (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads David Conrad (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Eric Brunner-Williams (Jul 26)