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Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
From: Larry Stites <ncnet () sbcglobal net>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:01:55 -0700 (PDT)
NANOG : network operators are precisely those who directly assisted in creating the 'magic lamp' and the cork which held the marketing Jeanie inside. The same operators who took the cork out and rubbed the 'magic lamp'... The Jeanie is now out of the bottle and you all are complaining about it, all the while creating new magic, more lamps and more Jeanie's... Go figure. NANOG complaining about being harassed by the marketing technologies it has created...
________________________________ From: David Conrad <drc () virtualized org> To: Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> Cc: NANOG list <nanog () nanog org> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 11:40 AM Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Patrick, On Jul 26, 2013, at 8:40 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net> wrote:Err. ICANN isn't a membership organization. It is possible to change things at ICANN, but the mechanisms are ... different and much slower (since it involves getting consensus in a multi-stakeholder environment).Sure it is, the membership is just very .. uh .. selective. :) "Stakeholder" is just a fancy way of saying "member". They vote, things change.You appear to be using a rather ... expansive definition of the word 'member'.Like I said, this is _exactly_ what Ryan wanted. Only the "anointed" get to decide things. Works out well, doesn't it?In the sense that the ones who actively participate, scream the loudest, lobby the most, etc., get to decide things, I suppose one could say it works out. However, since anyone can actively participate, scream, lobby, etc., I'm not sure how that can be described as "only the anointed get to decide things". Regards, -drc
Current thread:
- RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads, (continued)
- RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads Otis L. Surratt, Jr. (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads John Curran (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jimmy Hess (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads John Curran (Jul 26)
- RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads Leo Vegoda (Jul 30)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads David Conrad (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Patrick W. Gilmore (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Eric Brunner-Williams (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads David Conrad (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Larry Stites (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jon Lewis (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Warren Bailey (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jimmy Hess (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jimmy Hess (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 27)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jimmy Hess (Jul 27)