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Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads
From: John Curran <jcurran () arin net>
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 04:34:18 +0000
On Jul 27, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia () gmail com> wrote:
... In other words --- they would have passed a knowledge proof, showing they deserve the right to bypass "Level 1 call center drones". E.g. to gain enhanced access in a world with 'an additional level of whois access' Step 1... 1. Submit an application with a nominal fee, explain to the RIR your periodic use of WHOIS, and how you would benefit from seeing 'special contacts' data; also including signed NDA regarding 'enhanced' extra contact information. 2. Pay ongoing fees for criminal/spammer background checks, with results forwarded to the RIR. 3. Show up at a RIR meeting, and sign the guest list -- or otherwise, get other members of the community to vouch for your character and technical capability, or, as an alternative show technical credentials in the form of an earned professional level networking industry certification requiring a performance-based lab assessment with advanced network troubleshooting of Layer 1 through 4 on real equipment. Those were some examples.
Jimmy - If I understand you correctly, you are seeking establishment of a database of private operator contact data; this data would only made available to those who are "provably known" (using some process TBD), who furthermore agree to its terms of use, and potentially pay some nominal fee to offset its cost. Based on my (admittedly dated) knowledge of service provider operations, I can see how access to this "enhanced" data might be a useful service, although I'm not certain that it being based on "Whois" or the existing registry data is necessarily required for the service to be useful. Also, while ARIN's purpose and mission could be said to include such services, it's good to note that any organization whose purposes include "areas in which inter-provider cooperation can be mutually beneficial" would be also be a suitable home for such an activity... FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO ARIN p.s. If in the end you feel strongly that _ARIN_ should be offering such a service, please submit into the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process.. (which doesn't mean it will happen, only that we'll spec it out and then put it in front of the community for consideration.) <https://www.arin.net/participate/acsp/acsp.html>
Current thread:
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads, (continued)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jon Lewis (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Warren Bailey (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jimmy Hess (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Mark Gauvin (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Steven Noble (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jimmy Hess (Jul 26)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Valdis . Kletnieks (Jul 27)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Jimmy Hess (Jul 27)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads John Curran (Jul 27)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Matthew Petach (Jul 28)
- RE: ARIN WHOIS for leads Frank Bulk (Jul 27)
- DNS Whois Requirements (was: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads) John Curran (Jul 27)
- Re: DNS Whois Requirements Rob McEwen (Jul 27)
- Re: DNS Whois Requirements Rob McEwen (Jul 27)
- Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads Daniel Seagraves (Jul 26)