Re: Webcasting as a replacement for traditional broadcasting (was Re: Wackie 'ol Friday)

["cb.list6" <cb.list6 () gmail com>]

On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Warren Bailey
<wbailey () satelliteintelligencegroup com> wrote:
> Japan has been doing this exact thing for close to 10 years.. Why is it hard

Japan has been doing what exactly?  Can you cite it?  I am pretty sure
 by "exact thing" you do not mean EMBMS.

> to do? Buffer the video 30 seconds or use a codec that doesn't blow? I use
> my phone via "4G"and stream media constantly. If you take a look at Charlie

Yes, and by "streaming", you mean downloading discrete video chunks
with http.  That is the state of the industry today video over unicast
TCP / HTTP.  It is not EMBMS

A very large percentage of mobile data traffic today is video via HTTP
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns341/ns525/ns537/ns705/ns827/white_paper_c11-520862.html

I do not know of any EMBMS deployments.

CB

> Ergen's behavior lately, there won't need to be a lte tv.. Lightsquared is
> about to be murdered for breaking the Gps and dish will take over as largest
> provider in the US. Now taking bets.
>
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> Sent from my Mobile Device.
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: "cb.list6" <cb.list6 () gmail com>
> Date: 06/08/2013 9:52 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: Brandon Butterworth <brandon () rd bbc co uk>
> Cc: nanog () nanog org
> Subject: Re: Webcasting as a replacement for traditional broadcasting (was
> Re: Wackie 'ol Friday)
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 8, 2013 at 3:08 AM, Brandon Butterworth
> <brandon () rd bbc co uk> wrote:
> > > I was at an incentive auction discussion earlier in the week where it
> > > was suggested that the broadcasters see a rosy future with ATSC
> > > beaming to mobile, but there is still work to be done.
> >
> > They might wish, after many years there has been little take up of the
> > various systems created to do this (we've spent quite some time working
> > on the standards). Nobody wanted to pay for it to be in handsets, other
> > features were seen as more important uses of the space/power.
> >
> > The next try is LTE Broadcast
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EMBMS
>
> Without going into painful detail on the policy, technology or
> economics, i really don't see EMBMS being widely deployed and
> successful
>
> Not to say some folks won't try to make pigs fly.  Vendors make a lot
> of money at the "pigs flying" BU.
>
> I do imagine the invisible hand of tariffs guiding users to better use
> broadcast TV and Radio for live events.
>
> CB
>
> > brandon