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Re: huawei
From: Phil Fagan <philfagan () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 10:50:28 -0600
So, DPI, duplication, injection into frames. If each Hauwei knows of each other....I supose you could create a Hauwei backbone and slowly pick and pull peices of what you want out of the flow. But how realistic is that really... On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore <patrick () ianai net>wrote:
On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:28 , "Avi Freedman" <avi () freedman net> wrote:I disagree. There have already been lab demos of sfps that could inject frames andAPTs are pretty advanced, sinister, and can be hard to detect now.I'm not suggesting Huawei is or isn't enabling badness globally but Ithink it would be technically feasible. I am assuming a not-Hauwei-only network. The idea that a router could send things through other routers without someone who is looking for it noticing is ludicrous. Of course, most people aren't paying attention, a few extra frames wouldn't be noticed most likely. But if you are worried about it, you should be looking. Also, I find it difficult to believe Hauwei has the ability to do DPI or something inside their box and still route at reasonable speeds is a bit silly. Perhaps they only duplicate packets based on source/dest IP address or something that is magically messaged from the mother ship, but I am dubious. It should be trivial to prove to yourself the box is, or is not, doing something evil if you actually try. -- TTFN, patrick------Original Message------ From: Patrick W. Gilmore To: NANOG list Subject: Re: huawei Sent: Jun 13, 2013 12:22 PM On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:18 , Nick Khamis <symack () gmail com> wrote:A local clec here in Canada just teamed up with this company to provide cell service to the north:http://cwta.ca/blog/2012/09/24/ice-wireless-iristel-and-huawei-partner-for-3g-wireless-network-in-northern-canada/Scary....Why? Do you think Huawei has a magic ability to transmit data without younoticing?If you don't want to use Hauwei because they stole code or did othernasty things, I'm right there with you. If you believe a router can somehow magically duplicate info and transport it back to China (ignoring CT/CU's inability to have congestion free links), I think you are confused.-- TTFN, patrick
-- Phil Fagan Denver, CO 970-480-7618
Current thread:
- Re: huawei, (continued)
- Re: huawei Randy Bush (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Michael Hallgren (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei david raistrick (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Phil Fagan (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Eugen Leitl (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Jay Ashworth (Jun 14)
- Re: huawei Randy Bush (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Adrian (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Rich Kulawiec (Jun 14)
- Re: huawei Phil Fagan (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Michael Thomas (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Nick Khamis (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Scott Helms (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Michael Thomas (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Mark Gallagher (Jun 13)
- Re: huawei Scott Helms (Jun 13)