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Re: Are undersea cables tapped before they get to ISP's? [was Re: Security over SONET/SDH]
From: Måns Nilsson <mansaxel () besserwisser org>
Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 16:53:32 +0200
Subject: Re: Are undersea cables tapped before they get to ISP's? [was Re: Security over SONET/SDH] Date: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:38:30AM -0400 Quoting Christopher Morrow (morrowc.lists () gmail com):
It's potentially a lot simpler than that: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ivy_Bells>this involved, I think, just intuiting signals from the nearfield effects of the cable, no? 'drop a large sensor ontop-of/next-to the cable, win!'
IVY BELLS (USN is / was an ALL-CAPS org, right?) was a copper era project, and it did use EMI tapping (TEMPEST) to get to the traffic without tampering with the cable. Having gotten that cleared, I'd argue that if you're on speaking terms with the cable operator, it is much easier to use a full-spectrum monitor port on the WDM system. -- Måns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668 Your CHEEKS sit like twin NECTARINES above a MOUTH that knows no BOUNDS --
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