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RE: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project
From: Alex Rubenstein <alex () corp nac net>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 09:53:37 -0400
So, you are comfortable just giving up your right to privacy? It's just the wayit is? If you want to exercise your right to privacy, use end to end encryption and onion remixing networks to hamper traffic analysis.
Whoa. These are two completely separate issues. I concur with you whole-heartedly; if you have something to keep private or something that is sensitive, protect it. That is your right, it is legal, and you should do it. I do. But that DOES NOT, UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, in any way make it OK for the USG to ignore the fourth amendment. I should not have to "hamper traffic analysis" that is analyzing my traffic illegally. That is the bigger point here.
Everything else is for the hopelessly gullible.
You mean, "Everything else is for the people who are OK with being snooped on by the government."
I'm sorry, I am not as accepting of that fact as you are. I am disappointed and disgusted that this is, and has been, going on. Our government is failing us.What government is this, kemo sabe? Nanog has a global audience.
Fair enough, but I think we all know what I am talking about.
Current thread:
- PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Jay Ashworth (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Matthew Petach (Jun 06)
- RE: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Alex Rubenstein (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Jonathan Lassoff (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Eugen Leitl (Jun 07)
- RE: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Alex Rubenstein (Jun 07)
- RE: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Jon Lewis (Jun 10)
- RE: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Alex Rubenstein (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project goemon (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project jim deleskie (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Leo Bicknell (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Robert Mathews (OSIA) (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Jay Ashworth (Jun 07)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Mark Seiden (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project jamie rishaw (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Mark Seiden (Jun 06)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Christopher Morrow (Jun 07)
- Re: PRISM: NSA/FBI Internet data mining project Matthew Petach (Jun 06)