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Re: Is multihoming hard? [was: DNS amplification]


From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 15:53:10 -0400

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 6:44 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 15:16:57 -0500, Owen DeLong said:
On Mar 20, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Seth Mattinen <sethm () rollernet us> wrote:
Based on the average clue of your average residential subscriber (anyone
here need not apply) I'd say that's a good thing.

If BGP were plug-and-play automated with settings specified by the provider,
what would the user's clue level have to do with it?

The hypothetical existence of such a box doesn't change the fact that
providers have to make business decisions based on actual boxes and users.

Providers who don't wish to be leap-frogged have to make business
decisions about unserved and underserved demand for which they don't
already have an effective product.


Yes, if a plug-n-play idiot-proof BGP box existed, then the profit calculus
would be different.  On the other hand, if there existed a reliable
cost-effective means for faster-than-light signaling, if would drastically
change intercontinental peering patterns.

That's not a particularly compelling counterpoint. We have a mechanism
for multihoming: BGP. We have a mechanism for flying to the moon:
rocket ships. At a strictly technical level, either could be made
suitable for use by John Q. Public. In both cases the cost
attributable to John Q's desired activity, when using known
techniques, greatly exceeds his budget.


That having been said, I'd be very interested in your take on how FTL
would change intercontinental peering patterns. How would dropping all
links to a 0 ms latency change the ways in which we choose to
interconnect and why?

Regards,
Bill Herrin


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