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Re: CDN node locations
From: Phil Bedard <bedard.phil () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 21:08:06 -0500
http://www.sprint.com/legal/open_internet_information.html Maybe "proxy" was the wrong word, and "transparent video optimization" are better words. :) I'm not speaking with any internal knowledge of Sprint Wireless's network but I wouldn't be surprised if you had no choice in the matter. Phil From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com> Date: Saturday, November 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM To: Phil Bedard <bedard.phil () gmail com>, NANOG <nanog () nanog org> Subject: Re: CDN node locations Maybe, but I don't use their proxies, I've overriden them for speed. Phil Bedard <bedard.phil () gmail com> wrote:
On 11/16/13, 7:36 PM, "Jay Ashworth" <jra () baylink com> wrote:Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather & maintain without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally thousands of them, most do not serve the entire Internet, and they change frequently. And before you ask, I know at least Akamai will _not_ give you their list, so don't even try to ask them.I find myself unsurprised. I was led to a very interesting failure case involving CDN's a couple weeks ago, that I thought you might find amusing. I have a Samsung Galaxy S4, with Sprint. On a semi-regular basis, the networking gets flaky around 1-2am ish local time, but 3 weekends ago, the symptom I saw was DNS lookups failed -- and it wasn't clear to me whether it was "just some lookups failed", or that Big Sites were cached at the provider, and *all* outgoing 53 traffic to the greater internet wasn't being forwarded by Sprint's customer resolvers. I know that it was their resolvers, though, as I grabbed a copy of Set DNS, and pointed my phone to 8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> , and 4.2.2.1 <http://4.2.2.1> , and OpenDNS, and like that, and everything worked ok. Except media. (Patrick is starting to nod and chuckle, now :-) Both YouTube and The Daily Show's apps worked ok, but refused to play video clips for me. If I reset the DNS to normal, I went back to "not all sites are reachable, but media plays fine". My diagnosis was that those sites were CDNed, and the DNS names to *which* they were CDNs wer e only visible inside Sprint's event horizon, so when I was on alternate DNS resolution, I couldn't get to them. But that took me over a day to figure out. Don't get old. :-) Patrick? Is that how (at least some) customers do it?It seems more likely the Sprint resolvers you were using were having difficulty reaching external authoratative servers but the devices they proxy all the media content through wasn't... All major media content these days is CDN'd but I don't think that had anything to do with it. Phil
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Current thread:
- Re: List of CDNs?, (continued)
- Re: List of CDNs? Michael Collins, Aleae (Nov 15)
- Re: List of CDNs? Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 16)
- Re: List of CDNs? Michael Collins (Nov 16)
- Re: List of CDNs? Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 16)
- CDN node locations Jay Ashworth (Nov 16)
- Re: CDN node locations Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 16)
- Re: CDN node locations Warren Bailey (Nov 16)
- Re: CDN node locations Martin Hannigan (Nov 17)
- Re: CDN node locations Phil Bedard (Nov 16)
- Re: CDN node locations Jay Ashworth (Nov 16)
- Re: CDN node locations Phil Bedard (Nov 16)
- Re: List of CDNs? Simon Lyall (Nov 14)
- Re: List of CDNs? Patrick W. Gilmore (Nov 16)