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Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 69, Issue 28


From: Fred Reimer <freimer () freimer org>
Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 18:55:01 +0000

Centralized management / control plane.  Kind of the reverse of widely
dispersed per-node policy based routing.


On 10/11/13 2:47 PM, "Vytautas V Grigaliunas" <vyto () fnal gov> wrote:

What is SDN at its essence ?



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Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2013 19:13:57 +0100 (BST)
From: William Waites <wwaites () tardis ed ac uk>
To: joelja () bogus com
Cc: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: Policy-based routing is evil? Discuss.
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On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 10:41:46 -0700, joel jaeggli <joelja () bogus com>
said:

    > you take all the useful information that an IGP could be (or is)
    > providing you, and then you ignore it and do something else.

Yes, that's another part of the conversation, encouraging the use of an
IGP,
which has been a source of trouble for them because of broken wireless
bridges
from a very commonly used vendor that randomly eat multicast packets,
so it's
not as straightforward as it should be.

    > evil is not a synonym for ugly patch placed over a problem that
    > could be handled better.

Ok, fair enough. My first experience with PBR was as a summer intern in
the
mid-1990s who inherited management of a large ATM network that had a big
VPN-esque thing built entirely that way and with no documentation. It
certainly
felt evil at the time. ;)

-w

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