Re: verizon trouble ticket NJ DQ04PWR9 -- is verizon blocking FLOKsociety.org by accident or on purpose?

[Bryan Tong <contact () nullivex com>]

Working here on Bresnan (charter)

root@hq:~# traceroute floksociety.org
traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
 1  * * *
 2  cacco002dr9-GE-1-0-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (69.146.239.57)  38.721 ms
 39.799 ms  39.899 m           s
 3  host-72-175-111-198.bln-mt.client.bresnan.net (72.175.111.198)  26.722
ms  27.671 ms  2           7.771 ms
 4  chywyaT1cr5-XE-5-2-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (72.175.110.135)  27.791 ms
 27.818 ms  27.820            ms
 5  seawafh2cr5-XE-5-1-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (72.175.111.166)  67.666 ms
 68.616 ms  68.641            ms
 6  seawafh1tr5-XE-2-0-0-U0.int.bresnan.net (72.175.110.68)  51.856 ms
 61.108 ms  61.768 m           s
 7  12.90.77.21 (12.90.77.21)  65.384 ms  66.327 ms  66.448 ms
 8  cr2.st6wa.ip.att.net (12.123.46.130)  122.440 ms  112.765 ms  111.808 ms
 9  cr2.dvmco.ip.att.net (12.122.1.77)  111.733 ms  102.272 ms  98.744 ms
10  cr2.dlstx.ip.att.net (12.122.31.89)  105.493 ms  106.421 ms  105.106 ms
11  dlstx02jt.ip.att.net (12.122.214.249)  104.780 ms  101.914 ms  106.405
ms
12  213.140.53.61 (213.140.53.61)  103.208 ms 192.205.35.250
(192.205.35.250)  100.279 ms 2           13.140.53.61 (213.140.53.61)
 121.303 ms
13  Te0-5-0-6-grtmiabr5.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.58)
 144.127 ms Xe8-0-2-0-
grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net(94.142.119.38)  159.790 ms
Xe3-1-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.
telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.134)  139.640 ms
14  Te0-2-0-4-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.5)
 138.665 ms Te0-1-0-0-g
rtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net(213.140.37.77)  139.681 ms
Xe7-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.t
elefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.154)  145.648 ms
15  176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  163.222 ms 176.52.251.201
(176.52.251.201)  143.164 ms            176.52.249.241 (176.52.249.241)
 140.896 ms
16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  184.038 ms  188.723 ms  181.953 ms
17  * * *
18  * * *
19  * * *
20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  189.490 ms  188.537 ms
 188.500 ms
21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  190.366 ms  188.294 ms
 192.845 ms
22  * * *
23  * * *
24  * * *
25  * * *
26  * * *
27  * * *
28  * * *
29  * * *
30  * * *


Traceroute black holes but the site works.

Site works on VZW in Colorado.

Cheers


On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:22 AM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com
> wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Gordon Cook <cook () cookreport com> wrote:
> > Hi chris
> >
> > really appreciate the help from ALL you guys
>
> sure thing.
>
> > does what you just said mean that non reachability for version customer
>  may mean a config problem for a small bloc and not something intentional??
>
> that's probably hard to say... I do know that:
>
>  5  0.xe-9-2-0.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.36.30)  6.457 ms  6.821 ms
> 0.xe-11-2-1.GW9.IAD8.ALTER.NET (152.63.42.2)  5.932 ms
>  6  telefonica-gw.customer.alter.net (152.179.50.114)  7.182 ms  5.433
> ms  5.431 ms
>  7  Xe4-1-6-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.123.145)
> 47.271 ms  48.381 ms Te0-7-0-5-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
> (94.142.126.182)  50.290 ms
>
>
> telefonica is a 'customer' not a 'peer' of 701, based on their
> connectivity. This means that telefonica has to tell 701: "Yo, I need
> you to accept routes for x, y, z, ktnxbi!'
>
> knowing the normal (well, 5yrs ago) config for customers of 701, I
> don't expect there'd be special handling of this prefix either... so I
> suspect either no one told 701 to accept this, or telefonica pouched
> it at the handoff :(
>
> If they didn't do that, these routes wouldn't be accepted.
> If telefonica botched some filter on their side (see the comment about
> prepending).
>
> It's fairly sure though that the prefix isn't 'blackholed'... since
> it's everything in the /22 not just the local /32 or /24. Bill
> Herrin's on target as well, it's really hard to say from here :)
>
> -chris
>
> > On Oct 4, 2013, at 12:54 PM, Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists () gmail com>
> wrote:
> > > err.. nothing in the /24 is reachable from 701's perspective (so it
> > > seems)... so I'd suspect that there's a routing problem with the /24,
> > > in fact the surrounding /24's also seem to be having the same problem.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Miles Fidelman
> > > <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:
> > > > Also inaccessible from FIOS Boston:
> > > > new-host-2:~ mfidelman$ traceroute floksociety.org
> > > > traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 52 byte
> packets
> > > > 1  wireless_broadband_router (192.168.1.1)  1.534 ms  0.853 ms 0.724 ms
> > > > 2  l100.bstnma-vfttp-84.verizon-gni.net (96.252.37.1)  7.619 ms 6.855
> ms
> > > > 7.304 ms
> > > > 3  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  10.482 ms !N *^C
> > > >
> > > > But just fine from our datacenter via xo.net.  And the web server is
> up - at
> > > > least to a text browser (Lynx).
> > > >
> > > > Also via Verizion cell network (Boston area).
> > > >
> > > > Some kind of routing table glitch or peering issue, perhaps?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > William Herrin wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Gordon Cook <cook () cookreport com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > traceroute to floksociety.org (200.10.150.169), 64 hops max, 72
> byte
> > > > > > > packets
> > > > > > >  1  192.168.1.1 (192.168.1.1)  0.759 ms  0.309 ms  0.357 ms
> > > > > > >  2  l100.cmdnnj-vfttp-26.verizon-gni.net (98.110.50.1)  36.778 ms
> > > > > > > 17.508 ms  7.316 ms
> > > > > > >  3  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)
>  6.482 ms
> > > > > > > !N *
> > > > > > >  4  * * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)
>  7.101
> > > > > > > ms !N
> > > > > > >  5  * g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)
>  9.239 ms
> > > > > > > !N *
> > > > > > >  6  g0-3-4-5.cmdnnj-lcr-21.verizon-gni.net (130.81.184.119)  6.823
> ms
> > > > > > > !N *  8.846 ms !N
> > > > >
> > > > > Inaccessible via FIOS Washington DC too:
> > > > >
> > > > > traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
> > > > > traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> > > > > packets
> > > > >  1  L300.WASHDC-VFTTP-91.verizon-gni.net (173.73.47.1)  1.804 ms
> > > > > 1.595 ms  1.562 ms
> > > > >  2  G0-6-4-7.WASHDC-LCR-22.verizon-gni.net (130.81.216.250)  5.321
> ms !N
> > > > > * *
> > > > >
> > > > > Correctly accessible via Cox, Qwest, Sprint and others, but the
> > > > > network path is really slow and really long.
> > > > >
> > > > > The border is consistently with telefonica-wholesale.net and then
> > > > > telconet.net. Beyond the border there are badly behaving routers,
> > > > > including ones configured with RFC 1918 addresses. The addressable
> > > > > routers are reachable via Verizon, just not the last hop.
> > > > >
> > > > > traceroute -T -p 80 200.10.150.169
> > > > > traceroute to 200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169), 30 hops max, 60 byte
> > > > > packets
> > > > >  1  sark.dirtside.com (70.182.189.216)  0.708 ms  0.689 ms  0.569 ms
> > > > >  2  10.1.192.1 (10.1.192.1)  9.957 ms  9.874 ms  9.725 ms
> > > > >  3  ip68-100-3-49.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.49)  9.631 ms  9.507 ms
>  9.424
> > > > > ms
> > > > >  4  ip68-100-3-113.dc.dc.cox.net (68.100.3.113)  9.310 ms  9.226 ms
> > > > > 9.140 ms
> > > > >  5  mrfddsrj02gex070002.rd.dc.cox.net (68.100.0.145)  9.111 ms  9.019
> > > > > ms  8.929 ms
> > > > >  6  68.1.4.139 (68.1.4.139)  8.791 ms *  5.981 ms
> > > > >  7  209.48.42.61 (209.48.42.61)  5.748 ms  11.361 ms  10.948 ms
> > > > >  8  vb2000d2.rar3.washington-dc.us.xo.net (207.88.13.66)  58.454 ms
> > > > > 52.415 ms  52.421 ms
> > > > >  9  te-3-0-0.rar3.atlanta-ga.us.xo.net (207.88.12.9)  60.543 ms
> > > > > 60.397 ms  60.378 ms
> > > > > 10  te-3-0-0.rar3.dallas-tx.us.xo.net (207.88.12.2)  58.211 ms
>  58.407
> > > > > ms  58.392 ms
> > > > > 11  * * *
> > > > > 12  206.111.5.226.ptr.us.xo.net (206.111.5.226)  53.378 ms  49.080 ms
> > > > > 47.435 ms
> > > > > 13  Xe-8-1-0-0-grtmiabr3.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.125.54)
> > > > > 76.006 ms Xe8-0-2-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
> > > > > (94.142.119.38)  60.181 ms
> > > > > Xe13-1-4-0-grtmiabr4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.43.109)
> > > > > 125.888 ms
> > > > > 14  Te-0-2-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net(94.142.119.233)
> > > > >  67.105 ms Te0-1-0-0-grtmiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
> > > > > (213.140.37.77)  63.435 ms
> > > > > Xe5-1-8-0-grtmiana2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (213.140.36.89)
> > > > > 141.873 ms
> > > > > 15  Xe9-3-0-0-gramiana4.red.telefonica-wholesale.net (94.142.126.197)
> > > > > 62.450 ms 176.52.249.245 (176.52.249.245)  66.665 ms 176.52.249.241
> > > > > (176.52.249.241)  64.668 ms
> > > > > 16  176.52.252.66 (176.52.252.66)  118.619 ms  118.057 ms  117.934 ms
> > > > > 17  * * *
> > > > > 18  * * *
> > > > > 19  * * *
> > > > > 20  host-186-5-116-193.telconet.net (186.5.116.193)  122.586 ms
> > > > > 120.967 ms  115.040 ms
> > > > > 21  host-186-101-89-42.telconet.net (186.101.89.42)  122.801 ms
> > > > > 125.164 ms  119.520 ms
> > > > > 22  * * *
> > > > > 23  200.10.150.169 (200.10.150.169)  253.710 ms  246.684 ms  244.845
> ms
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> > > > In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra


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