Re: minimum IPv6 announcement size

[bmanning () vacation karoshi com]

back in the good o'l days when we would hand out 24 bits for the 
number of hosts in a network.   It was too many bits then and is 
too many bits now....  a /64 is just overkill.

/bill



On Tue, Oct 01, 2013 at 03:11:39PM -0400, Ryan McIntosh wrote:
> I'd love to be able to turn the microwave and oven on with my phone..
> maybe ten years from now lol..
>
> In all seriousness though (and after skimming some of the other
> responses), I absolutely understand the ideals and needs amongst
> conserving memory on our routers for the sake of the future of bgp and
> internal routing. The problem I described has nothing to do with that
> however, I was mearly pointing out the fact that the basis of the
> larger allocations are based upon the fact we're handing over /64's to
> each vlan/point to point/lan/etc that we're turning up. In practice, I
> understand, a /64 means that 64 bits can handle a unique ip for every
> host without having to worry about numbering them, but how many hosts
> do we truly think will be sitting on one network? Surely not a /64's
> worth, that alone would cause havoc on a neighbor table's maximum
> memory limit. Maybe I'm missing the connection here, but I still don't
> see how a /64 is justified for each individual user/host/server/etc
> sitting on the edge of the internet that's getting ip's from an
> upstream provider (not arin/ripe/etc).
>
> It's those smaller blocks that justify handing over larger ones, which
> I do understand there's plenty of, but how long are we going to patch
> the same problem and not try to fix it right?
>
> Ryan
>
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:37 PM, Larry Sheldon <LarrySheldon () cox net> wrote:
> > On 9/27/2013 1:10 AM, Ryan McIntosh wrote:
> > > I don't respond to many of these threads but I have to say I've
> > > contested this one too only to have to beaten into my head that a /64
> > > is "appropriate".. it still hasn't stuck, but unfortunately rfc's for
> > > other protocols depend on the blocks to now be a /64..
> > >
> > > It's a waste, even if we're "planning for the future", no one house
> > > needs a /64 sitting on their lan.. or at least none I can sensibly
> > > think of o_O.
> >
> >
> >
> > Are you accounting for connections to your refrigerator, water heater,
> > razor, vibrator, and on down to list so the gubermint can tell they when you
> > can use power for them?
> >
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