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Re: Yahoo DMARC breakage


From: Dave Crocker <dhc2 () dcrocker net>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 06:45:41 -0500

On 4/9/2014 11:54 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
Basic functionality is seriously and utterly broken ---  that DMARC
doesn't have a good answer for such situations, is a major indicator
of its immaturity,  in the sense that it is "Too specific" a solution
and cannot apply to e-mail in general.

If it were mature: a mechanism would be provided that would allow
mailing lists to function  without breaking changes such as
substituting From:.



On 4/9/2014 11:54 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote:> Basic functionality is
seriously and utterly broken ---  that DMARC doesn't
have a good answer for such situations, is a major indicator of its
immaturity,  in the sense that it is "Too specific" a solution and
cannot apply to e-mail in general.

If it were mature: a mechanism would be provided that would allow
mailing lists to function  without breaking changes such as
substituting From:.



Every tool has limitations.

An 18-wheeler truck is not broken or immature because it fails to corner like a Maserati. A Maserati is not broken or immature because it does not have the carrying capacity of an 18-wheeler.

DMARC was designed to handle a particular usage scenario and its limitations have been carefully documented.


Or perhaps we need to declare email broken and immature because it does not (yet) satisfy a long list of entirely reasonable functional requirements, such as, ummm, author authentication?

Long deployment and use and deep knowledge don't matter; only satisfying someone's list of requirements does?


d/
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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net


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