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RE: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years]


From: Matthew Black <Matthew.Black () csulb edu>
Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 14:48:03 +0000

Also on this same idea, in his book "The Puzzle Palace," James Bamford claims that we knew of the pending attack on 
Pearl Harbor but did nothing, because that would compromise we broke the Japanese Purple Cipher.

matthew black
california state university, long beach


-----Original Message-----
From: William Herrin [mailto:bill () herrin us] 
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:06 PM
To: nanog () nanog org
Subject: Re: [[Infowarrior] - NSA Said to Have Used Heartbleed Bug for Years]

On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 4:10 PM, Niels Bakker <niels=nanog () bakker net> wrote:
Please go read up on some recent and less recent history before making 
judgments on what would be unusually gutsy for that group of people.

I'm not saying this has been happening but you will have to come up 
with a better defense than "it seems unlikely to me personally".

Let me know when someone finds the second shooter on the grassy knoll.
As for me, I do have some first hand knowledge as to exactly how sensitive several portions of the federal government 
are to the security of the servers which hold their data. They may not hold YOUR data in high regard... but the word 
"sensitive" does not do justice to the attention lavished on THEIR servers' security.

In WW2 we protected the secret of having cracked enigma by deliberately ignoring a lot of the knowledge we gained. So 
such things have happened. But we didn't use enigma ourselves -- none of our secrets were at risk. And our adversaries 
today have no secrets more valuable than our own.

-Bill




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