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Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post
From: Doug Barton <dougb () dougbarton us>
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 08:37:43 -0700
On 04/27/2014 03:15 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
----- Original Message -----From: "Hugo Slabbert" <hslabbert () stargate ca>But this isn't talking about transit; this is about Comcast as an edge network in this context and Netflix as a content provider sending to Comcast users the traffic that they requested. Is there really anything more nuanced here than: 1. Comcast sells connectivity to their end users and sizes their network according to an oversubscription ratio they're happy with. (Nothing wrong here; oversubscription is a fact of life). 2. Bandwidth-heavy applications like Netflix enter the market. 3. Comcast's customers start using these bandwidth-heavy applications and suck in more data than Comcast was betting on. 4. Comcast has to upgrade connectivity, e.g. at peering points with the heavy inbound traffic sources, accordingly in order to satisfy their customers' usage.You may be new here, but I'm not, and I read it exactly the same way.How is this *not* Comcast's problem? If my users are requesting more traffic than I banked on, how is it not my responsibility to ensure I have capacity to handle that? I have gear; you have gear. I upgrade or add ports on my side; you upgrade or add ports on your side. Am I missing something?It is absolutely the problem of the eyeball carrier who gambled on a given oversubscription ratio and discovered that it's called gambling because sometimes, you lose.
+1What I don't understand is why Netflix et al are not doing a PR campaign to explain this to the end users.
Doug
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jack Bates (Apr 28)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they couldenshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Hugo Slabbert (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they couldenshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Justin M. Streiner (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Niels Bakker (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Phil Bedard (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Suresh Ramasubramanian (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jay Ashworth (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Doug Barton (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Lee (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 27)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 28)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jay Ashworth (Apr 29)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Jean-Francois Mezei (Apr 29)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 29)
- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Owen DeLong (Apr 26)
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- Re: The FCC is planning new net neutrality rules. And they could enshrine pay-for-play. - The Washington Post Larry Sheldon (Apr 26)
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