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Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read
From: "Allen McKinley Kitchen (gmail)" <allenmckinleykitchen () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 9 Dec 2014 20:15:41 -0500
+1 on the most important statement below, from my point of view: RAID 5 and RAID 10 are totally separate animals and while you can set up a separate RAID 10 array and migrate your data to it (as soon as possible!!!) you cannot migrate from 5 to 10 in place absent some utter magic that I am unaware of. 10 requires more raw drive space but offers significant write performance advantages when correctly configured (which isn't really too difficult). 5 is fine for protection against losing one drive, but 5 requires much more internal processing of writeable data before it begins the writes and, not too long ago, was considered completely inappropriate for applications with high numbers of writes, such as a transactional database. Still, 5 is often used for database systems in casual installations just because it's easy, cheap (relatively) and modern fast boxes are fast enough. Ok, getting down off my RAID soapbox - good luck. ..Allen
On Dec 9, 2014, at 17:22, Michael Brown <michael () supermathie net> wrote: If the serveraid7k cards are LSI and not Adaptec based (I think they are) you should just be able to plug in a new adapter and import the foreign configuration. You do have a good backup, yes? Switching to write-through has already happened (unless you specified WriteBackModeEvenWithNoBBU - not the default) - these (LSI) cards by default only WB when "safe". If WT, RAID10 much better perf. BUT you just can't migrate from R5 to R10 non-destructively. - Michael from Kitchener Original Message From: symack Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 16:04 To: nanog () nanog org Subject: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Server down..... Got to colo at 4:39 and an old IBM X346 node with Serveraid-7k has failed. Opened it up to find a swollen cache battery that has bent the card in three different axis. Separated the battery. (i) Inspect card and plug back in, (ii) reboot, and got (code 2807) Not functioning.... Return to (i) x3 got same result. Dusted her off and let it sit for a while plugged in, rebooted to see if I can get her to write-through mode, disks start spinning. Horay. Plan of action, (and the reason for my post): * Can I change from an active (ie, disks with data) raid 5 to raid 10. There are 4 drives in the unit, and I have two on the shelf that I can plug in. * If so, will I have less of performance impact with RAID 10 + write-thru then RAID 5 + write through * When the new raid card comes in, can I just plug it in without loosing my data? I would: i) RAID 10 ii) Write-thru iii) Replace card The new card is probably coming with a bad battery that would put us kind of in square one. New batteries are 200+ if I can find them. Best case scenario is move it over to RAID 10+Write-thru, and feel less of the performance pinch. Given I can move from RAID 5 to RAID 10 without loosing data. How long to anticipate downtime for this process? Is there heavy sector re-arranging happening here? And the same for write-thru, is it done quick? I'm going to go lay down just for a little white. Thanks in Advance, Nick from Toronto.
Current thread:
- Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read symack (Dec 09)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Michael Brown (Dec 09)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Allen McKinley Kitchen (gmail) (Dec 09)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Seth Mos (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Rob Seastrom (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Javier J (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Joe Greco (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Randy Bush (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Gary Buhrmaster (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Randy Bush (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Rob Seastrom (Dec 11)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Barry Shein (Dec 11)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Rob Seastrom (Dec 11)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Rob Seastrom (Dec 10)
- Re: Got a call at 4am - RAID Gurus Please Read Michael Brown (Dec 09)