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Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house
From: Josh Luthman <josh () imaginenetworksllc com>
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2014 16:57:54 -0500
I would have to expect they're doing a virtual SSID which means 0 additional wattage. Worst case scenario it adds another radio of less than 5 watts of which is absolutely negligible if you're able to afford cable Internet service. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 4:54 PM, Owen DeLong <owen () delong com> wrote:
While I generally support the lawsuit, I have to question "a vast burden on their electric bill". Does an 802.11 transmitter that was already being used to support their own WiFi network that they are paying for really consume vastly more electricity to support a second SSID? In my experience, that claim is hard to fathom. OwenOn Dec 10, 2014, at 18:35 , Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net> wrote: Why am I not surprised? Whose fault would it be if your comcast installed public wifi would beabused to download illegal material or launch a botnet, to name some random fun one could have on your behalf. :-/(apologies if this was posted already, couldn't find an email about iton the list)http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/12/10/disgruntled_customers_lob_sueball_at_comcast_over_public_wifi/"A mother and daughter are suing Comcast claiming the cable giant'srouter in their home was offering public Wi-Fi without their permission.Comcast-supplied routers broadcast an encrypted, private wirelessnetwork for people at home, plus a non-encrypted network called XfinityWiFi that can be used by nearby subscribers. So if you're passing by a fellow user's home, you can lock onto their public Wi-Fi, log in using your Comcast username and password, and use that home's bandwidth.However, Toyer Grear, 39, and daughter Joycelyn Harris – who livetogether in Alameda County, California – say they never gave Comcast permission to run a public network from their home cable connection.In a lawsuit [PDF] filed in the northern district of the golden state,the pair accuse the ISP of breaking the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and two other laws.Grear – a paralegal – and her daughter claim the Xfinity hotspot is anunauthorized intrusion into their private home, places a "vast" burden on electricity bills, opens them up to attacks by hackers, and "degrades" their bandwidth."Comcast does not, however, obtain the customer's authorization prior toengaging in this use of the customer's equipment and internet service for public, non-household use," the suit claims."Indeed, without obtaining its customers' authorization for thisadditional use of their equipment and resources, over which the customer has no control, Comcast has externalized the costs of its national Wi-Fi network onto its customers."The plaintiffs are seeking monetary damages for themselves and on behalfof all Comcast customers nation-wide in their class-action case – the service was rolled out to 20 million customers this year."-- Earthquake Magnitude: 4.8 Date: 2014-12-10 22:10:36.800 UTC Date Local: 2014-12-10 13:10:36 PST Location: 120km W of Panguna, Papua New Guinea Latitude: -6.265; Longitude: 154.4004 Depth: 35 km | e-quake.org
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- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Grant Ridder (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Livingood, Jason (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house George, Wes (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Larry Sheldon (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Jay Ashworth (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Josh Luthman (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Jay Ashworth (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Harald Koch (Dec 10)
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- RE: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Phil Bedard (Dec 10)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Mr Bugs (Dec 10)
- RE: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Andrew Jones (Dec 10)
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