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Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house
From: Mark Andrews <marka () isc org>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 09:44:39 +1100
In message <ximss-380907 () mail ropeguru com>, "Robert Webb" writes:
Many read, but what choice do they have. In many cases Comcast is the only game in town and it is either agree, or have no "real" internet access at all. I am one that has opposed the auto opt-in of this setup. The main reason is that Comcast wants up to foot the bill for power
A couple of cents a year on top of what you are paying to run the WiFi modem for yourself.
and space for their benefit.
What space? It is the WiFi modem you are already using. Unless it requires a seperate external aerial I don't see any extra space. Even if it does require a seperate external aerial it is highly unlikely that you would be using the space the aerial occupies anyway.
While, yes, it is very minimal, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. By that I mean why shouldn't we be able to nickel and dime them like they do to us. We pay for internet access and they want to charge us for access AND to lease equipment. Yeah, sure, if you are a residential user or a business class user without a static ip, then you can go out and purchase your own device. But if you have BCI with static IP's then you are screwed. I have the 50/10 BCI with 5 static IP's and then I have to pay an additional $12.95 per month just for the crappy SMC device. If I remember correctly, residential pays $8.95 per month. Equipment should be included in the cost of the service, and always was in the past. But yet, Comcast has decided to nickel and dime us to death for everything, not just modem rentals. Robert On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 08:17:19 -0500 Scott Helms <khelms () zcorum com> wrote:Not a law, it's in their updated terms and conditions that no one reads. On Dec 11, 2014 8:12 AM, "William Herrin" <bill () herrin us> wrote:On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:35 PM, Jeroen van Aart <jeroen () mompl net> wrote:Whose fault would it be if your comcast installed public wifiwould beabused to download illegal material or launch a botnet, to namesome randomfun one could have on your behalf. :-/Doesn't work that way. Separate authenticated channel. Presents differently from you with a different IP address out on the Internet. What Comcast is stealing is electricity. Pennies per customer times a boatload of customers. theft n. the generic term for all crimes in which a person intentionally and fraudulently takes personal property of another without permission or consent and with the intent to convert it to the taker's use (including potential sale). In many states, if the value of the property taken is low (for example, less than $500) the crime is "petty theft," Unless of course the knucklehead jurisdiction passed a law to allow it. I'm betting they didn't. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> May I solve your unusual networking challenges?
-- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka () isc org
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- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Michael O Holstein (Dec 11)
- RE: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Tony Hain (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Scott Helms (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Jay Ashworth (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Jeroen Massar (Dec 10)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Tom Hill (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house William Herrin (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Scott Helms (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Robert Webb (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Mark Andrews (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Jean-Francois Mezei (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Mark Andrews (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Jay Ashworth (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Mark Andrews (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Scott Helms (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Scott Helms (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house TR Shaw (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Scott Helms (Dec 11)
- Re: Comcast thinks it ok to install public wifi in your house Jean-Francois Mezei (Dec 11)