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Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?]
From: goemon () anime net
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:21:49 -0800 (PST)
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu wrote:
On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 10:09:02 -0800, Paul Ferguson said:I'd like to echo Jared's sentiment here -- collectively speaking, service providers need to figure out a way to deal with this issue, before some congresscritters start to try to introduce legislation that will force you to to do it in a way that no one will like.Can somebody explain to me why those who run eyeball networks are able to block outbound packets when the customer hasn't paid their bill, but can't seem to block packets that shouldn't be coming from that cablemodem? (And yes, I know that in the first case, it urges the customer to cough up the bucks, and in the second case, it's usually not a revenue generator)
The only way this is going to get fixed is to make it more expensive to originate abuse than it is to block it.
The only thing management is going to pay attention to is their pocketbooks.
-Dan
Current thread:
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple., (continued)
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Paul Ferguson (Feb 05)
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Randy Bush (Feb 05)
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Paul Ferguson (Feb 05)
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Randy Bush (Feb 05)
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Leo Bicknell (Feb 06)
- POLL: BCP38 Name And Shame Jay Ashworth (Feb 05)
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- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Mark Andrews (Feb 05)
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Randy Bush (Feb 05)
- Re: Why won't providers source-filter attacks? Simple. Livingood, Jason (Feb 07)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Jay Ashworth (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] goemon (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Tony Tauber (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Randy Bush (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Livingood, Jason (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Octavio Alvarez (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Livingood, Jason (Feb 04)
- RE: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Frank Bulk (Feb 04)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Livingood, Jason (Feb 05)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Christopher Morrow (Feb 05)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Robert Drake (Feb 06)
- Re: BCP38 [Was: Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?] Jay Ashworth (Feb 05)