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Re: TWC (AS11351) blocking all NTP?


From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu
Date: Mon, 03 Feb 2014 16:07:52 -0500

On Mon, 03 Feb 2014 11:29:21 -0600, Joe Greco said:

There's a bootstrap issue here.  I'm guessing that you may be picturing
a scenario where a network operator simply queries to obtain the list of
ntp.org servers and special-cases their own.  However, I believe that
the system won't add NTP servers that appear to be nonresponsive to the
list (bootstrap paradox), and in any case the list of returned servers
is quite large and a response basically picks a few random servers, so
it is quite difficult to know what servers are on your network in an
automated fashion.

And even harder to identify stuff that's downstream at one of your
customer's sites.

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