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Re: Verizon FIOS IPv6?


From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka () seacom mu>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 12:32:36 +0200

On Thursday, January 09, 2014 12:03:13 AM Justin M. Streiner 
wrote:

My guesses for the foot-dragging, re: v6 deployment on
FiOS: 1. Can't get their set-top boxes working on it
yet.  One customer service rep told me this.  I didn't
feel up to starting the whole "what's wrong with
dual-stack?" argument.

Well, typically, linear Tv services are ran in their own 
VLAN and on RFC 1918 space. So in essence, they can start 
deploying IPv6 for the Internet VLAN (I'm not claiming to 
know their network design, just speaking generally) while 
they figure out how to get their STB's supporting IPv6.

The majority of STB's support neither IGMPv3 nor IPv6, for 
the same reason. The manufacturers don't see the point, and 
the operators who buy from them don't see the need to put 
them on the spot (which is all bad).

I could see an issue where the STB also has some OTT content 
capability (like VoD or cloud-based DVR, e.t.c.), and if the 
servers pumping that content out are not part of the walled-
garden, NAT44 would be needed to bring that content down to 
an STB that has an RFC 1918 address driving it. In such a 
case, supporting IPv6 on the STB sooner rather than later 
alleviates pressures associated with NAT44.

So lack of IPv6 support in the STB is not a deal-breaking 
reason, IMHO, since users are generally using IPv6 on 
laptops, desktops, smart phones, tablets, gaming consoles, 
OTT services, Tv's, media streamers, e.t.c., which typically 
fall under the Internet VLAN, i.e., aren't in some walled-
garden.

Mark.

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