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Re: Inevitable death, was Re: Verizon Public Policy on Netflix
From: Baldur Norddahl <baldur.norddahl () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 21:59:22 +0200
Brett, you are missing my point. I am no expert on wireless links and the equipment I pointed at might be garbage. But you have a backhaul problem that you need to solve. If not that equipment, then something else. You are balking up the wrong tree with Netflix. People want high bandwidth video and an ISP need to be able to provide that. Caching could not solve your problem, not even close. Netflix might function at .5 Mbps but that would be their poor quality setting. People do not want that. They want the Super HD version of the video. The 6 Mbps version. And this is just now, later on they are going to want the 4k version of the video. Netflix is not a monopoly. They are just one player out of many. You can not expect someone else to solve your backhaul problem. Neither Netflix, YouTube nor Hulu are charities. They do not really care if your customers leave you to a competitor, to get the wanted bandwidth. And neither should they. You hate the fact that the world is moving to high bandwidth video. We on the other hand love it. We sell FTTH and it is a selling point for our technology over, say, wireless internet. We want Netflix to move on to even higher bandwidth streams. I can not see how you can stay in the game if you do not adapt. From everything said here it appears your main problem is that backhaul, so find a solution. The solution will not come from bashing the video services and it will not come from starting up your own service. Even if you by some miracle made a good service, people would STILL want Netflix, HBO, Hulu, YouTube and many others. Nobody can expect to get a monopoly, not even you. Caching, were it possible, is not that effective. Say it could save 50% of the traffic (unlikely) you would still be paying effectively $10 per Mbps and you would still go broke. You simply can not be paying that much for traffic in a marked, where everyone else is paying $0.5/Mbps. Regards, Baldur
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