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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
From: William Herrin <bill () herrin us>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:33:54 -0400
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach () netflight com> wrote:
Interestingly enough, this seems to be coupled with a statement that Verizon will be deploying Netflix CDN boxes into their network: http://publicpolicy.verizon.com/blog/entry/level-3s-selective-amnesia-on-peering "Fortunately, Verizon and Netflix have found a way to avoid the congestion problems that Level 3 is creating by its refusal to find “alternative commercial terms.”
"So what has changed for Level 3 [in the 2005 Cogent peering dispute]?" They lost the argument with Cogent. They figured out their customers were too valuable to risk their wrath over a desire to play chicken with someone willing to go the distance. That's what changed. Playing chicken with a large peer is a bad idea. Playing chicken with the FCC now that it's taken an interest is a worse one. I'm sorta surprised the class action lawyers aren't all over this. It seems to me a few million Verizon end-users are owed partial refunds of tens to hundreds of dollars each due to the admitted discriminatory constraints Verizon has placed on their data traffic to netflix and everybody else using the same networks netflix uses. I'm one of them. My Verizon connection became unusable for netflix a couple months ago and has been unusable for gaming every evening for the last few weeks. I'm only using a few dozen kilobits (paid for 25 mbps) for gaming, but the packet loss at the congested peering links kills it dead. If I didn't also have Cox I'd be ready to blow a gasket. There's a quality operation. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William Herrin ................ herrin () dirtside com bill () herrin us Owner, Dirtside Systems ......... Web: <http://www.dirtside.com/> Can I solve your unusual networking challenges?
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- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Scott Helms (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Matthew Petach (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jason Iannone (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Christopher Morrow (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Scott Helms (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jason Iannone (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jason Iannone (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Shawn Morris (Jul 23)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 23)