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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
From: "Constantine A. Murenin" <mureninc () gmail com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 09:55:15 -0700
On 22 July 2014 09:09, Miles Fidelman <mfidelman () meetinghouse net> wrote:
Well yeah, the LECs would definitely come unglued. But... first off, what do you mean by "free?" Someone has to pay the capital and operating budgets - so if not from user fees, then from taxes. So.. it's a nice thought, but not likely to happen. Heck, have you ever seen a water utility that doesn't charge? Now... having said that -- I could see something like this happen in California: - California allows (maybe requires) that developers pay "impact fees" when building new houses -- i.e., the cost of a house, in a new development, may include $20,000+ to pay for new infrastructure - roads, waterworks, police and fire substations, schools, you name it - if you buy a new house, you pay for the full cost of the infrastructure behind it (built into the financing of course - first the construction financing, then the bridge financing, then ultimately the mortgage) - I have seen some California communities at least toy with including conduit and fiber in master plans and requirements placed on developers - after all, it's needed to feed municipal buildings, street light control, and so forth - and better to have common-user conduit and fiber in the ground than have multiple people digging up the streets later
Yes, it appears that Brentwood, Contra Costa Country, Northern California (925), has had such a requirement for years. This ends up allowing someone like Sonic.net to offer Gigabit Fibre Internet + Unlimited Phone for mere 40$/mo as a final price (they don't do promotional pricing). http://sonic.net/brentwood C.
Current thread:
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Blake Dunlap (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Matthew Kaufman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Aaron (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Ray Van Dolson (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Ryan Wilkins (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Aaron (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Matthew Kaufman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Aaron (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Constantine A. Murenin (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Blake Dunlap (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME Jay Ashworth (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME Bruce H McIntosh (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME Jay Ashworth (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics - ENDGAME Michael Hallgren (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Ray Soucy (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Scott Helms (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Mikael Abrahamsson (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Scott Helms (Jul 22)