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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics


From: Jay Ashworth <jra () baylink com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2014 15:08:11 -0400 (EDT)

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From: "Mikael Abrahamsson" <swmike () swm pp se>

On Tue, 22 Jul 2014, Scott Helms wrote:

One of the main problems with trying to draw the line at layer 1 is
that
its extremely inefficient in terms of the gear. Now, this is in
large
part a function of how gear is built and if a significant number of
locales went in this direction we _might_ see changes, but today
each
ISP would have to purchase their own OLTs and that leads to many
more
shelves than the total number of line cards would otherwise dictate.
There are certainly many other issues, some of which have been
discussed
on this list before, but I've done open access networks for several
cities and _today_ the cleanest situations by far (that I've seen)
had
the city handling layer 1 and 2 with the layer 2 hand off being
Ethernet
regardless of the access technology used.

Stop doing PON then. Use point to point fiber, you get 40-48 active
customers per 1U. I'd imagine there might be newer platforms with even
higher densities.

Yes, there are many examples of L2 being used but in order to deliver
triple play the L2 network won't be purely L2, also BCP38 needs it to
start doing L2.5+ functions, meaning it's harder to deploy new servies
such as IPv6 because now the local network needs to support it.

It's cleaner just to do L1 and aggregate thousands or tens of
thousands of residential properties in the same place.

I believe you've misunderstood Scott's point.

The goal of layer-restriction is to encourage competition.

The underlying goal is "reducing the barrier to entry of a new ISP".

The less equipment such a new ISP has to provision, the lower that
barrier is.  If all you have to provision is a couple GE/10GE ports
on your core switch, that's an order of magnitude easier than any 
type of optical termination equipment, for you as a potential ISP 
customer.

To make this work, the fiber operator *has to make it easy for ISPs
to become their clients* as well...

Cheers,
-- jra
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