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Re: Muni Fiber and Politics
From: William Allen Simpson <william.allen.simpson () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2014 13:03:10 -0400
On 7/21/14 3:50 PM, William Herrin wrote:
On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Blake Dunlap <ikiris () gmail com> wrote:My power is pretty much always on, my water is pretty much always on and safe, my sewer system works, etc etc...Mine isn't. I lost power for a three days solid last year, I've suffered 3 sanitary sewer backflows into my basement the last decade and you should see the number of violations the EPA has on file about my drinking water system. Only the gas company has managed to keep the service on, at least until I had a problem with the way their billing department mishandled my bill. Didn't get solved until it went to the lawyers. And I'm in the burbs a half dozen miles from Washington DC. God help folks in a truly remote location.
Woah! Catching up on this thread -- AFAICT from public sources you (Herrin) don't actually have municipal electric or gas, and doesn't look like water/sewer either.... What you have are regulated monopolies, subject to what's known as "regulatory capture". I've lived in places with municipal power and water -- and also under regulated monopolies. Municipal beats the pants off them! My gas company was bought by my electric company, so not even the hint of power competition there. My water/sewer company is "owned" by a big bankrupt city nearby, but operated as a separate entity with poor oversight -- so it's pretty much the worst possible case, indistinguishable from a regulated monopoly. Michigan used to have local cable boards, which were done away with in the same law that outlawed municipal broadband. Now we have to make complaints about Comcast at the state level. That's just dandy. :(
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- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics, (continued)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Scott Helms (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Miles Fidelman (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Bruce H McIntosh (Jul 22)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Gary Buhrmaster (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Allen Simpson (Jul 25)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics William Herrin (Jul 25)
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- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Larry Sheldon (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Jay Ashworth (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics Owen DeLong (Jul 21)
- Re: Muni Fiber and Politics John Osmon (Jul 21)